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Question:
Has anyone had any luck or heard of such praticing dice control on the 'mystery of 50' bubble craps machines.
Background:
I am a novice to this world, I go to vegas once or twice a year with my wife and have a good time usually breaking about even. Generally I go to have fun and don't put much thought into advantage playing.
The last couple of times I've noticed and preferred the bubble craps machines to the tables mainly because I can play on the strip with low minimums. I have noticed (and seen others discussed) some abnormalities in the frequencies that come up. Further a few times I've been able to time the dice so that the showing roll will be the result. It is a rare opritu it's but occasionally it does happen.
Anyway your thoughts?
Has anyone had any luck or heard of such praticing dice control on the 'mystery of 50' bubble craps machines.
Background:
I am a novice to this world, I go to vegas once or twice a year with my wife and have a good time usually breaking about even. Generally I go to have fun and don't put much thought into advantage playing.
The last couple of times I've noticed and preferred the bubble craps machines to the tables mainly because I can play on the strip with low minimums. I have noticed (and seen others discussed) some abnormalities in the frequencies that come up. Further a few times I've been able to time the dice so that the showing roll will be the result. It is a rare opritu it's but occasionally it does happen.
Anyway your thoughts?
tupp
I've heard theories. I think that the action/response of the roll buttons varies somewhat.
By the way, it's actually 'history of 50' -- they flash a couple of sporadic stats about the last 50 rolls.
By the way, it's actually 'history of 50' -- they flash a couple of sporadic stats about the last 50 rolls.
Hexaplus
Ha yea o generally tune her out :)
Can you point to the theories you've seen my friend?
Can you point to the theories you've seen my friend?
FleaStiff
I would doubt there is an opportunity there, but please identify the machine(s) so that there is less confusion.
The only electronic craps I've played just kept rolling and rolling the dice inside a plastic bubble and there was no 'roll' button nor did I see any history display though I would have ignored it if I had.
The only electronic craps I've played just kept rolling and rolling the dice inside a plastic bubble and there was no 'roll' button nor did I see any history display though I would have ignored it if I had.
tupp
... please identify the machine(s) so that there is less confusion.
Aruze Shoot To Win.
odiousgambit
Such machines might have the potential to 'remember' the last position of the dice. This possible pattern production would be something any casino would question, so the manufacturer must have been able to convince doubters. One thing I am sure of is that players have tried to find a pattern. There are always some dumb-asses doing it, but also some sharp characters. I think by now some of the latter would have cracked it.
Any anecdotal-level observations you may make without tons of data are just going to mess with your head, worthless stuff. I suggest you give up trying to find patterns and just enjoy your play.
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
FinsRule
I'm a believer. We had a thread about this a while ago and I couldn't find it. Basically, my theory is that over time the results are fair, but there might be some correlation from one set of numbers to the next.
I would love to study it and make thousands, but I'm not because an AP play like this is not fair to the casinos that are just trying to provide me with some entertainment.
I would love to study it and make thousands, but I'm not because an AP play like this is not fair to the casinos that are just trying to provide me with some entertainment.
Hexaplus
The beauty is that thousands of samples can be made fairly cheaply: on a $1 machine if you play 24 hours straight you'll get 60 to 70 hours of play hours of play on a $50 dollar bankroll.
There is a big button that basically causes the dice to get jostled when you press it.
The game has been compared to no-whammies which is funny because no-whammies was in fact advantage-able.
Not fair? I don't want to cheat, just like an interesting problem. A couple extra bucks with out breaking any rules sounds okay too.
There is a big button that basically causes the dice to get jostled when you press it.
The game has been compared to no-whammies which is funny because no-whammies was in fact advantage-able.
Not fair? I don't want to cheat, just like an interesting problem. A couple extra bucks with out breaking any rules sounds okay too.
Beethoven9th
...because an AP play like this is not fair to the casinos that are just trying to provide me with some entertainment.
So is card counting 'not fair' either?
Fighting BS one post at a time!
Beethoven9th
if you play 24 hours straight you'll get 60 to 70 hours of play hours of play on a $50 dollar bankroll.
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tupp
I've heard theories. I think that the action/response of the roll buttons varies somewhat.
By the way, it's actually 'history of 50' -- they flash a couple of sporadic stats about the last 50 rolls.
By the way, it's actually 'history of 50' -- they flash a couple of sporadic stats about the last 50 rolls.
Hexaplus
Ha yea o generally tune her out :)
Can you point to the theories you've seen my friend?
Can you point to the theories you've seen my friend?
FleaStiff
I would doubt there is an opportunity there, but please identify the machine(s) so that there is less confusion.
The only electronic craps I've played just kept rolling and rolling the dice inside a plastic bubble and there was no 'roll' button nor did I see any history display though I would have ignored it if I had.
The only electronic craps I've played just kept rolling and rolling the dice inside a plastic bubble and there was no 'roll' button nor did I see any history display though I would have ignored it if I had.
tupp
... please identify the machine(s) so that there is less confusion.
Aruze Shoot To Win.
odiousgambit
Such machines might have the potential to 'remember' the last position of the dice. This possible pattern production would be something any casino would question, so the manufacturer must have been able to convince doubters. One thing I am sure of is that players have tried to find a pattern. There are always some dumb-asses doing it, but also some sharp characters. I think by now some of the latter would have cracked it.
Any anecdotal-level observations you may make without tons of data are just going to mess with your head, worthless stuff. I suggest you give up trying to find patterns and just enjoy your play.
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!” She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
FinsRule
I'm a believer. We had a thread about this a while ago and I couldn't find it. Basically, my theory is that over time the results are fair, but there might be some correlation from one set of numbers to the next.
I would love to study it and make thousands, but I'm not because an AP play like this is not fair to the casinos that are just trying to provide me with some entertainment.
I would love to study it and make thousands, but I'm not because an AP play like this is not fair to the casinos that are just trying to provide me with some entertainment.
Hexaplus
The beauty is that thousands of samples can be made fairly cheaply: on a $1 machine if you play 24 hours straight you'll get 60 to 70 hours of play hours of play on a $50 dollar bankroll.
There is a big button that basically causes the dice to get jostled when you press it.
The game has been compared to no-whammies which is funny because no-whammies was in fact advantage-able.
Not fair? I don't want to cheat, just like an interesting problem. A couple extra bucks with out breaking any rules sounds okay too.
There is a big button that basically causes the dice to get jostled when you press it.
The game has been compared to no-whammies which is funny because no-whammies was in fact advantage-able.
Not fair? I don't want to cheat, just like an interesting problem. A couple extra bucks with out breaking any rules sounds okay too.
Beethoven9th
...because an AP play like this is not fair to the casinos that are just trying to provide me with some entertainment.
So is card counting 'not fair' either?
Fighting BS one post at a time!
Beethoven9th
if you play 24 hours straight you'll get 60 to 70 hours of play hours of play on a $50 dollar bankroll.
Bubble Craps Tips Free
You can play 60-70 hours in only 24 hours?? You're good.
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Fighting BS one post at a time!
